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Virginia governor Northam (edit: and now Lt Gov Fairfax)

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02 February 2019, 01:13 PM
LL
Virginia governor Northam (edit: and now Lt Gov Fairfax)
He should resign. Along with...

The other mate should also be exposed.


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02 February 2019, 03:33 PM
wtg
Well, color me totally confused.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/02...ook-photo/index.html


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02 February 2019, 03:37 PM
Nina
This latest "it wasn't me" is hard to believe. He was shown a photo of someone alleged to be him, in darkface or the KKK hood, apologized, and only later sat down to take a look at it and think, "hey, did I ever wear one of these costumes"?

""What has happened, I finally had a chance to sit down and look at the photo in detail. It is definitely not me," he said in response to questions"

Really? What is the guy so busy doing that he can't take a look at a photo that has the ability to crater his entire career? His denial: "I'm sorry, this wasn't the time I dressed in blackface, now that I think about it, there was a different time that I did..."

Puhleez. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt but he's losing me.
02 February 2019, 06:26 PM
QuirtEvans
quote:
Originally posted by Piano*Dad:


I'm not justifying that kind of behavior. I'm just getting sick of the instant political death sentences we pass on people.



That's my concern.

Outrage politics.
02 February 2019, 06:29 PM
QuirtEvans
I'm also wondering, in a post-Trump world, what happens if he doesn't.

A Senator who doesn't resign can be ostracized, can be made powerless. He can even be removed by his peers. The same cannot be said of a governor.
02 February 2019, 07:46 PM
Mikhailoh
I don't think he should resign. I'm very tired of ruining otherwise distinguished careers based on something done 30 years or more ago. Should he have known better at 26 in med school? Yeah. Does it negate everything he has done since? No.

If you knew the life I led at that age none of you would have had anything to do with me. Does that accurately reflect who I am today? Not for a nanosecond.


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02 February 2019, 08:20 PM
Piano*Dad
Do tell ... Big Grin

I'm told that Jon would have given you a run for your money. Wink
02 February 2019, 08:28 PM
Mikhailoh
In some ways yes. In others, no. Evil

It's kind of like comparing sports. We competed in different milieu.


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"A mob is a place where people go to get away from their conscience" Atticus Finch

02 February 2019, 08:53 PM
QuirtEvans
quote:
Originally posted by Mikhailoh:
I don't think he should resign. I'm very tired of ruining otherwise distinguished careers based on something done 30 years or more ago. Should he have known better at 26 in med school? Yeah. Does it negate everything he has done since? No.

If you knew the life I led at that age none of you would have had anything to do with me. Does that accurately reflect who I am today? Not for a nanosecond.


I keep tripping over the fact that this is a man who needed to be able to provide conscientious service to people of all races. I am deeply troubled that this happened in medical school.

But I am sympathetic to your view as well.
02 February 2019, 08:59 PM
Mikhailoh
I think that, having spent a couple years working in more rural (non-DC) Virginia, I understand that he could easily do so. It is strange. The racism/segregation in the south is not as hate-oriented as it is imagined. I see it more as I would imagine the Indian caste system. It's just accepted as the way things are.

It doesn't make it right, but I can understand a young man thinking nothing of it.


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"A mob is a place where people go to get away from their conscience" Atticus Finch

02 February 2019, 09:33 PM
QuirtEvans
quote:
Originally posted by Mikhailoh:
I think that, having spent a couple years working in more rural (non-DC) Virginia, I understand that he could easily do so. It is strange. The racism/segregation in the south is not as hate-oriented as it is imagined. I see it more as I would imagine the Indian caste system. It's just accepted as the way things are.

It doesn't make it right, but I can understand a young man thinking nothing of it.


In the 80s?

I was in DC during that same year. Not more than a hundred or so miles away. I can't even imagine it.
02 February 2019, 09:47 PM
Mikhailoh
I'm telling you, it was a different universe, even in the 90's.


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"A mob is a place where people go to get away from their conscience" Atticus Finch

02 February 2019, 09:47 PM
Cindysphinx
It goes like this.

If the person doing the bad thing is Donald Trump, no consequences.

If the person doing the bad thing is anyone else, death sentence.

Simple.
02 February 2019, 09:50 PM
Cindysphinx
I was in college at Arizona State University in 1980. For Halloween, some student donned a Klan costume and came to the dining hall.

The last I saw of him, he was being chased out by some of the black male athletes.

I think even back then people knew you couldn't don a Klan outfit and expect to go about your day.

Blackface is trickier. I think younger generations honestly don't understand the history well enough to know that Blackface is not the same thing as painting your face the same color as your favorite sports teams jerseys.

I can forgive more with blackface than the Klan outfit.

Had Meaghan Kelly not had other problematic statements in the past concerning race, I could have accepted her apology.
02 February 2019, 10:51 PM
Doug
I just double checked the date for perspective. Ted Danson got in trouble in 1993 for thinking being in blackface could still be a funny joke.

Obviously stupid, but I’m with Cindy about being more willing to accept that the black face could more ignorance than hateful, compared with a klan costume.