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03 August 2022, 01:55 PM
Piano*Dad
Alex Jones' Phone ...
facepalm Evil popcorn

The contents accidentally sent to Sandy Hook parents' lawyer

quote:
"You know what perjury is?" the lawyer asks.

03 August 2022, 01:58 PM
wtg
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.


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03 August 2022, 02:33 PM
rontuner
The amount of money being gathered by those claiming "entertainment" immunity from truth is staggering...


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03 August 2022, 02:47 PM
Cindysphinx
That man is a straight up monster.
03 August 2022, 03:18 PM
CHAS
Judge calls Jones on lying


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03 August 2022, 04:55 PM
CHAS
"accidentally"? or a disgusted paralegal or....


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03 August 2022, 05:37 PM
Piano*Dad
I don't care if it was an inside job, an outside job, or straight up carelessness, I just want him to see the inside of a jail cell for at least twenty years.
03 August 2022, 06:36 PM
Cindysphinx
He’s only 48.

I do worry about how they can end this guy once and for all. If he declares bankruptcy, can the parents still collect compensatory damages? What if he moves out of the US?
03 August 2022, 10:05 PM
Piano*Dad
Alex Jones can't pretend his way out of this reality
04 August 2022, 05:47 PM
wtg
quote:
Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones must pay the parents of Sandy Hook victim Jesse Lewis damage awards totaling $4.1 million, an Austin jury determined Thursday — far below the $150 million requested.

The financial hit against Jones and his main company, Free Speech Systems, may not be over.

In the next phase of the trial to begin Friday morning, jurors will be asked to issue punitive damages that are intended as punishment after hearing testimony from the parents' economic expert on the net worth of Jones and his company, Free Speech Systems.

After hearing seven days of evidence and a range of witnesses, jurors began deliberating Wednesday afternoon and announced their verdict around 4:15 p.m. Thursday.


https://www.statesman.com/stor...ok-case/65391779007/


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04 August 2022, 07:40 PM
Cindysphinx
He's lucky I wasn't on that jury.
04 August 2022, 10:36 PM
Nina
quote:
Originally posted by Cindysphinx:
He’s only 48.



Wow, he looks a lot older than that. Quite honestly, I don't understand how he hasn't had a stroke or something by this point. He looks so ridiculously unhealthy.

Re: the attorney goof-up, maybe an honest mistake, maybe not. I am reminded of a time back in the 1980s when Intel and AMD were going through one of their countless copyright legal battles. At some point the AMD lawyers left all sorts of documents on the hotel "office area" FAX, which were discovered by an Intel employee. So it does happen.
04 August 2022, 10:55 PM
wtg
I think I read that the defense asked for a mistrial, saying that the family’s lawyer should have returned the texts immediately without reading them. I wonder if the “accident” was a Hail Mary by the defense because they knew they were already in deep doo-doo.

Shrug


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05 August 2022, 12:09 AM
Cindysphinx
I don’t know what the clawback rules are in that jurisdiction. But normally, an attorney can’t automatically take advantage of a mistake by opposing counsel. At a bare minimum, the attorney who wants to claw something back has to show appropriate steps were taken to avoid the goof, and they have to ask for a clawback.

It sounds like either these were materials previously requested but not produced, and I didn’t see Jones’ lawyer leaping to his feet to object. It seems too late to object now, and I am not seeing a basis for a mistrial the defendant caused.
05 August 2022, 10:56 AM
Nina
I watched a bit of the testimony when the phone texts were revealed, and the prosecutor made a point of saying that he had told the defense attorney they had received the texts and the defense attorney didn't make any type of formal objection. There was a legal term for "formal objection," and my impression was that in the absence of such an objection it was kosher for the prosecutor to present the information during cross-examination. I remember thinking it was a truly awkward moment for the defense attorney, who sat at his desk with his head down as this was going on. Was all of that deliberate? Beats me. It seems unethical for a defense attorney to deliberately throw a case just because they're losing, but maybe it's something that does occur.

All I know is that I've rarely if ever seen it in "Law and Order." Big Grin