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A letter on justice and open debate

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07 July 2020, 01:45 PM
jon-nyc
A letter on justice and open debate
Some great signatories.

https://harpers.org/a-letter-o...ice-and-open-debate/


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If you think looting is bad wait until I tell you about civil forfeiture.

07 July 2020, 01:51 PM
jon-nyc
A must admit there are a couple of names on there that surprised me, people I thought might comfortably slide into the role of inquisitor.


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If you think looting is bad wait until I tell you about civil forfeiture.

07 July 2020, 10:38 PM
jon-nyc
We have our first retraction from a signatory.

Jennifer Finney Boylan.

https://twitter.com/jennyboyla...646004136697863?s=21

Maybe it was her way of signaling her oppressor is still in the house.


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If you think looting is bad wait until I tell you about civil forfeiture.

07 July 2020, 10:50 PM
jon-nyc
And another.

https://twitter.com/greenidgek...608456152678406?s=21


Funny how once it was printed some signatories first thought was ‘but some of the people who signed it I really want to cancel’.


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If you think looting is bad wait until I tell you about civil forfeiture.

08 July 2020, 08:32 AM
jodi
I don’t quite understand why you would sign something that seems like a reasonable opinion to you and then want to cancel when you see who else signed it. But I don’t feel like I understand enough these days.


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08 July 2020, 09:36 AM
jon-nyc
Seen on twitter:

"I'm sorry! I didn't realize that, when signing a letter that warns of an expanding culture of 'ideological conformity,' I was agreeing with people whose ideology does not conform with my own."


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If you think looting is bad wait until I tell you about civil forfeiture.

08 July 2020, 09:48 AM
jon-nyc


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If you think looting is bad wait until I tell you about civil forfeiture.

08 July 2020, 09:53 AM
Piano*Dad
quote:
Originally posted by jon-nyc:
Seen on twitter:

"I'm sorry! I didn't realize that, when signing a letter that warns of an expanding culture of 'ideological conformity,' I was agreeing with people whose ideology does not conform with my own."


I suspect fear of retribution dominates ideological niceties. Buyer's remorse in this case does not seem driven by high-minded concerns.
08 July 2020, 12:55 PM
kluurs
"While I'm against bombing orphanages, I did not realize that Noam Chomsky and Gloria Steinem shared this view. I never would have signed this letter had I known of their participation in this endeavor."
08 July 2020, 01:07 PM
jon-nyc
Jonah Goldberg commented

“I just thought this was an invitation to the cool kids lunch table”


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If you think looting is bad wait until I tell you about civil forfeiture.

08 July 2020, 01:55 PM
jon-nyc


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If you think looting is bad wait until I tell you about civil forfeiture.

08 July 2020, 02:10 PM
jon-nyc
Caitlin’s on a roll:



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If you think looting is bad wait until I tell you about civil forfeiture.

08 July 2020, 02:34 PM
Piano*Dad
Yes, she is having fun ... using twitter very effectively!
12 July 2020, 09:42 PM
jon-nyc
Chomsky comments on the reaction the letter had generated.



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If you think looting is bad wait until I tell you about civil forfeiture.

12 July 2020, 10:09 PM
Piano*Dad
quote:
"You're seeing half of it. The other half is a stream of cowardly letters from left academics and activists who don't want to be identified because of the toxic abuse they would receive if their friends saw them stray one iota from the outraged group orthodoxy, ... and tenure would probably be out the window, by the way."


FIFY, Noam.