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Has Achieved Nirvana |
You're refusing to see their starting point (which I believe is wrong, but it's an assumption on everyone's part, one way or the other). Their starting point is that it's a human being at conception. If they're right ... and, again, I do not agree with their starting position ... abortion is the killing of a human being. So, once you've made that starting assumption, it's the railroad problem. Throw the switch one way, and someone's civil rights are denied. Throw it the other way, and someone else's civil rights are denied, and they're dead to boot. There are no good solutions to the railroad problem. Frankly, the best argument for how evil they are comes from the actions of Alabama legislators. The Alabama law doesn't apply to embryos created through IVF, because, in the words of one legislator, there's no woman involved. The real reason, of course, is that there's no fertility clinic involved, and they aren't prepared to fight the medical establishment and the fertility clinics and infertile families, in addition to everyone else. But that just makes it clear that they are not willing to protect human embryos at all costs, just when it's convenient from a political point of view. | |||
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Agreed. I understand the motivation behind the boycott and sympathize with it, but it's not very practical. The only way for us to leave Oklahoma would be for me to retire from teaching. The market realities in my field are such that I am incredibly lucky to have the job I do. It seems more practical to spend my money intentionally rather than to boycott. When I travel to a deep blue state, there is no guarantee that I'm not giving my money to someone whose values horrify me. That's true anywhere. But I can skew things in the right direction when I know the values of the people running a business. Thus, I no longer eat at Chik-fil-a. Penzey's Spices is out front about its progressive politics, and Quirt and I recently shopped there. And so on. In some cases, though, the boycott makes sense. When a movie brings a huge production crew to Georgia, there is a real chance that one of its employees will have a miscarriage and get tangled up in an ugly legal situation. If I were a producer, I would take that into account when I chose a location.
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Has Achieved Nirvana |
What does Bernie Sanders have to do with this topic? | |||
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| Has Achieved Nirvana |
Come on, you must have been paying attention. The argument's been made repeatedly. If Bernie and the Bernie supporters hadn't screwed up the 2016 election, Kavanaugh and Gorsuch wouldn't be on the Supreme Court, and we wouldn't be in the position of worrying about whether Roe v. Wade would be reversed. I wrote several posts here in 2016 warning that one of the biggest risks of a Trump Presidency was a flip in the Supreme Court. Many people all over social media were saying the same thing. But the Bernie supporters all insisted that Clinton was just as bad as Trump. So, thank you, Bernie supporters. You did this to us. And thank you Bernie, for indulging your ego and attacking Democrats to the point that your supporters couldn't support Clinton in the end. | |||
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