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“Suspicionless seizures”—that is, forcible detention of individuals for document checks without probable cause or “reasonable suspicion”—are pretty much not allowed. CBP can check documents at borders and ports of entry for immigration purposes; now the agency seemed to be extending its “unshackled” reach to the interior.

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Originally posted by QuirtEvans:
https://www.theatlantic.com/id...hxdn2fNefcInte35ZvgE

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Originally posted by Piano*Dad:

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“Suspicionless seizures”—that is, forcible detention of individuals for document checks without probable cause or “reasonable suspicion”—are pretty much not allowed. CBP can check documents at borders and ports of entry for immigration purposes; now the agency seemed to be extending its “unshackled” reach to the interior.

Well, this is what happens routinely on I-25 north of Las Cruces. My son was harassed there by officers with dogs, and ordered to provide identification.

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Originally posted by Piano*Dad:
Yeah, tell that to four grad students at 1:00 A.M. who are told to get out of the car, line up, and provide documents by agents holding growling German Shepherds.

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Originally posted by Nina:
They are overcome with their own power. The notion of "probable cause" gets stretched and stretched. They are allowed to pull over a car anywhere (not just within 25 miles of the border, as is sometimes stated). They will hassle you if they feel like it. They will hassle Hispanics more than others. While you can sit there, say nothing except "am I free to go," they aren't magic words that will turn CBP into your friends. More than likely, it will antagonize them further.

The ACLU lists your rights, and what a reasonable stop should entail. But in both my personal experience and from what I've heard from others, the CBP is in total control of the stop and they can escalate pretty much whenever they want. Your only option, and the best approach, is to say as little as possible and ride it out.