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https://www.politico.com/news/...spending-bill-525458

Manchin finally declares a hard "no" to the social and climate spending bill.


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Recent polling in WVA suggests that the actual content of the bill is popular there with strong majorities. The problem, of course, is that once the local GOPers attach the "godless Biden SOCIALISM" label to that content the majorities would likely disappear. I'm sure that Manchin doesn't think he is persuasive enough to cut through that crap.

This is a pretty strong indictment of the intellect and awareness of the average voter and of the extent to which our parties have become cancerously dysfunctional.
 
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The Democrats always have an excuse.

In this case: two.

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This Manchin guy is a pimple on the posterior of progress.


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I put Manchin’s name in the title but to be fair there are 51 U.S. Senators opposing this, including the entire Senate GOP. Possibly 52, since Sinema hasn’t really made it clear where she stands. Manchus is not the only “no” vote.


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I put Manchin’s name in the title but to be fair there are 51 U.S. Senators opposing this, including the entire Senate GOP. Possibly 52, since Sinema hasn’t really made it clear where she stands. Manchus is not the only “no” vote.


I believe there was only 1 additional D who said they would vogte (or voted) no on the House version. He was hoping there would be additional negotiation opportunity with the Senate. Idiot.

Sinema must be breathing a sigh of relief that Manchin took the bullet for her. She's on record saying she wouldn't support BBB's current corporate tax increase and her concerns about inflation. Talking points. But we'll never know unless Shumer makes good on his threat to force a full Senate vote so people have to go on record.
 
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Senator Joe Manchin is facing calls from a powerful group close to his heart to reconsider his opposition to the Build Back Better Act: Coal miners.

A day after the West Virginia Democrat appeared to kill Build Back Better, America's largest coal mining union put out a statement lauding the legislation's provisions and pushing Manchin to take a do-over.

"We are disappointed that the bill will not pass," Cecil Roberts, president of the United Mine Workers of America, said in the statement on Monday. "We urge Senator Manchin to revisit his opposition to this legislation and work with his colleagues to pass something that will help keep coal miners working, and have a meaningful impact on our members, their families and their communities."

The 131-year-old UMWA called out several items that it believes are crucial to its members and communities, including extending the fee paid by coal companies to fund benefits received by victims of black lung.

"But now that fee will be cut in half, further shifting the burden of paying these benefits away from the coal companies and on to taxpayers," Roberts said.

Another benefit in Build Back Better cited by the UMWA: tax incentives to encourage manufacturers to build facilities in coalfields, employing thousands of coal miners who are out of work.

"Now the potential for those jobs is significantly threatened," Roberts said.

Roberts also cited a provision in the legislation that would penalize employers that deny workers their rights to form a union on the job.

The union said it has a "long and friendly relationship" with Manchin.

"We remain grateful for his hard work to preserve the pensions and health care of our retirees across the nation, including thousands in West Virginia," Roberts said. "He has been at our side as we have worked to preserve coal miners' jobs in a changing energy marketplace and we appreciate that very much."

Manchin's office was not immediately available for comment.


https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/21...e-manchin/index.html


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Originally posted by Piano*Dad:

This is a pretty strong indictment of the intellect and awareness of the average voter and of the extent to which our parties have become cancerously dysfunctional.


Both observations are spot on. Yet, those unaware voters votes count the same as mine and the pollsters and data folks in campaigns know that better than anyone.


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