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President Donald Trump’s unfounded allegations of voter fraud and unwillingness to concede the election are seriously affecting how some Republicans are interpreting the results.

According to a new survey from Vox and Data for Progress, 73 percent of likely Republican voters say that the allegations of voter fraud have made them question Joe Biden’s victory, a statement that 44 percent of all likely voters agreed with as well. Similarly, 75 percent of likely Republican voters said they believed voter fraud took place during the election that benefitted Biden, something that 43 percent of likely voters overall also stated.

Trump’s refusal to concede the election has significant support from members of his party, too.

A majority of likely Republican voters — 65 percent — agreed with Trump’s decision not to concede despite the fact that media outlets have called the election for Biden. And 69 percent of likely Republican voters felt that Trump doesn’t need to concede until the legal challenges he is levying about voter fraud have been resolved. (Many such cases have already failed, but Trump has vowed to continue additional contests.)

This poll — which was fielded with 1,160 likely voters on November 16 — highlighted how much Trump’s actions have undercut the legitimacy of Biden’s election for many voters, a problem that could well undermine how they perceive his presidency once he takes office in January.

These findings are consistent with those of other recent surveys, including a Reuters/Ipsos poll this week that found that 68 percent of Republican voters think that the election was “rigged” and about half believe that Trump “rightfully won” it. Although Trump may ultimately give up his legal challenges, his questioning of the election results could have damaging effects that last long beyond those lawsuits.


https://www.vox.com/2020/11/18...ns-republican-voters


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We don't. "We" need to put the current populist GOP into a permanent minority, i.e. destroy it as a political force. The people in this party who do this stuff need to be shunned, literally. We don't sit and politely compliment Lindsey Graham for his tenacious defense of his beliefs, as though they're just normal parts of good ol' American politics.
 
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Gotta do something about truth on America's public "airwaves" - all forms of media.


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This is how they thought about us and what they termed "Russia, Russia, Russia"

There are 74 million of us who voted one way, and 71 million that voted another way.

Houston, we have a problem.


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One side is racist, homophobic, misogynistic, and in the pockets of the top .1%. Oh, and blowing up the international order WE created out of the blood of hundreds of thousands of war dead in WWII, seemingly just for fun, leaving us less safe and less capable of influencing international events (and more likely to have thousands of Americans die in future conflicts). The other side wants to expand voting rights, and spend more money than the GOP would like on "socialistic" things like minimum wages and health care. Yep, I see the equivalence.

And then there is COVID, climate-denial, the denigration of Democratic norms ...
 
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One side is racist, homophobic, misogynistic, and in the pockets of the top .1%. Oh, and blowing up the international order WE created out of the blood of hundreds of thousands of war dead in WWII, seemingly just for fun, leaving us less safe and less capable of influencing international events (and more likely to have thousands of Americans die in future conflicts). The other side wants to expand voting rights, and spend more money than the GOP would like on "socialistic" things like minimum wages and health care. Yep, I see the equivalence.

And then there is COVID, climate-denial, the denigration of Democratic norms ...


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