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Biden selection down to four?

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26 June 2020, 01:41 PM
CHAS
Biden selection down to four?
""The colonoscopy of the vetting is now occurring," a Democratic official involved in the process said, speaking on condition of anonymity to adhere to the privacy surrounding the selection."
CNN


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26 June 2020, 02:21 PM
ShiroKuro
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CNN spoke to more than a dozen people close to the Biden search process who believe that four of the leading prospects are Sen. Kamala Harris of California, Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, Rep. Val Demings of Florida and Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms.


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I may be biased because we're practically neighbors, but I like Mayor Bottoms a lot!!

I know nothing about Rep. Demings. I need to learn more about Sen. Harris.

I would be very happy with Sen. Warren because I think she's got a lot of energy and a head full of policy and could come in "kicking ass and taking names." And she would help push Biden to the left, which I like. But... I wonder if she'd be divisive enough to be a bad influence on the campaign?

Ultimately, I would like to see a woman of color on the ticket, and I know a lot of people are advocating for that.


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26 June 2020, 10:11 PM
Cindysphinx
Of these, only a Harris is acceptable.

Does anyone remember the Baltimore mayor who is in jail right now for a scheme to trade influence for children’s books?

Why on earth take a chance on a mayor? She may be smart, but you need familiarity during debates with foreign policy. You’d be risking a Palin moment

Demings was a cop. This will turn off progressives with no commensurate appeal to the law and order crowd.

Those two are not ready to be president if Bide. Catches the virus at the inauguration.
26 June 2020, 10:19 PM
Piano*Dad
Agree with every point. I would not risk taking on a person who had not demonstrated foreign policy chops. And the VP choice needs to have been thoroughly vetted in prior campaigns. Statewide elections for Senators tend to be more brutal, on average, so Senators are safer than newbie mayors and members of the House. Senators also tend to have more foreign policy experience than governors. Buttigieg is the exception to these claims, not the rule.
26 June 2020, 10:26 PM
Cindysphinx
And these two really are newbies. Mayor of Atlanta for two years? I have one question: Can she see Cuba from her house?

I very much hope Bottoms runs for governor very soon.

Buttigieg is awesome also, but no one would have considered him for vp had he not done so well in the national spotlight.
26 June 2020, 10:32 PM
Piano*Dad
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Buttigieg is awesome also, but no one would have considered him for vp had he not done so well in the national spotlight.


Indeed, and for all the reasons you mention. But he did run, and he did show that he has the chops. Bottoms has no such experience, and no evidence from her background that she could walk into the oval office and command the respect of the world. In ten years, who knows.
26 June 2020, 11:35 PM
Cindysphinx
Here’s another reason to not pick bottoms: her kids’ names.

Lincoln, Lance, Langston, Lennox Bottoms.

Ooof.
26 June 2020, 11:40 PM
Cindysphinx
And There is the little matter of city funds being used to pay for her husbands first class flight to the Super Bowl. She got caught and had to repay it.

Just. No.
26 June 2020, 11:47 PM
Piano*Dad
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Originally posted by Cindysphinx:
Here’s another reason to not pick bottoms: her kids’ names.

Lincoln, Lance, Langston, Lennox Bottoms.

Ooof.


What the L??
27 June 2020, 01:13 AM
Steve Miller
Each one is on the list for the weakest of justifications.

I don’t like candidates chosen for gender. I don’t like candidates chosen for race. I like candidates chosen on the basis of performance and the basis of competence.

We’re doomed.


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27 June 2020, 04:16 AM
Daniel
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Originally posted by Piano*Dad:
quote:
Originally posted by Cindysphinx:
Here’s another reason to not pick bottoms: her kids’ names.

Lincoln, Lance, Langston, Lennox Bottoms.

Ooof.


What the L??


Lol.
27 June 2020, 06:08 AM
jon-nyc
I share Cindy’s concerns about Demond’s and Bottoms. They may be great but I don’t see how Biden’s team can figure that out in a few weeks.

She didn’t state her objections to Warren but whatever they are they’re fine with me. lol


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27 June 2020, 08:58 AM
QuirtEvans
Elizabeth Warren is a personal favorite, but the moment calls for a black woman.

Keisha Bottoms has actually run something. She speaks impressively and with passion, she's from a swing state, she can get out the black vote.

She's my pick.

Demings would be OK, but I'm not sure she's the same quality of public speaker.

Harris just leaves me "meh". OK, a safe choice, but she doesn't excite me the way Bottoms does.
27 June 2020, 09:07 AM
Piano*Dad
In a prior post, on a different topic, you said you didn't want to take too much risk. Apparently you feel differently about defeating Trump ... Smiler
27 June 2020, 10:31 AM
QuirtEvans
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Originally posted by Piano*Dad:
In a prior post, on a different topic, you said you didn't want to take too much risk. Apparently you feel differently about defeating Trump ... Smiler


I think I might just perceive the risks differently. I want turnout. I think Bottoms generates more turnout than Harris. And I'm not sure that Warren will be acceptable to the ... well, the people who for whatever reason don't like Warren. Plus, she's older, and that doesn't intersect well with Biden's age.