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Oh, boy. This one's close to home.

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Can a century-old TB vaccine steel the immune system against the new coronavirus?

Researchers in four countries will soon start a clinical trial of an unorthodox approach to the new coronavirus. They will test whether a century-old vaccine against tuberculosis (TB), a bacterial disease, can rev up the human immune system in a broad way, allowing it to better fight the virus that causes coronavirus disease 2019 and, perhaps, prevent infection with it altogether. The studies will be done in physicians and nurses, who are at higher risk of becoming infected with the respiratory disease than the general population, and in the elderly, who are at higher risk of serious illness if they become infected.

A team in the Netherlands will kick off the first of the trials this week. They will recruit 1000 health care workers in eight Dutch hospitals who will either receive the vaccine, called bacillus Calmette-Guérin (BCG), or a placebo.

BCG contains a live, weakened strain of Mycobacterium bovis, a cousin of M. tuberculosis, the microbe that causes TB. (The vaccine is named after French microbiologists Albert Calmette and Camille Guérin, who developed it in the early 20th century.) The vaccine is given to children in their first year of life in most countries of the world, and is safe and cheap—but far from perfect: It prevents about 60% of TB cases in children on average, with large differences between countries.

Vaccines generally raise immune responses specific to a targeted pathogen, such as antibodies that bind and neutralize one type of virus but not others. But BCG may also increase the ability of the immune system to fight off pathogens other than the TB bacterium, according to clinical and observational studies published over several decades by Danish researchers Peter Aaby and Christine Stabell Benn, who live and work in Guinea-Bissau. They concluded the vaccine prevents about 30% of infections with any known pathogen, including viruses, in the first year after it’s given. The studies published in this field have been criticized for their methodology, however; a 2014 review ordered by the World Health Organization concluded that BCG appeared to lower overall mortality in children, but rated confidence in the findings as “very low.” A 2016 review was a bit more positive about BCG’s potential benefits but said randomized trials were needed.

Since then, the clinical evidence has strengthened and several groups have made important steps investigating how BCG may generally boost the immune system. Mihai Netea, an infectious disease specialist at Radboud University Medical Center, discovered that the vaccine may defy textbook knowledge of how immunity works.


https://www.sciencemag.org/new...inst-new-coronavirus

The BCG vaccine is what Mr wtg gets as immunotherapy for his bladder cancer, though it is instilled directly into the bladder via catheter rather than injected into the arm. The vaccine is held in the bladder for two hours and then peed out.

There is already a shortage of the vaccine, with only about 70 percent of the doses needed to treat bladder cancer patients worldwide.

Potentially worrisome for us if it turns out to be good for COVID-19, too.


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I have read quite a bit about the stuff in relation to Brazil and Japan. It seems to have some promise. If nothing else it doesn’t hurt anything it will protect you from tuberculosis.


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So there continues to be a shortage of BCG and it will affect mr wtg's treatment plan somewhat. If BCG were available, he would be on a three year plan of doses of BCG. He will round out year one with three more weekly doses starting next week.

The previous protocol would have him taking two courses (six months apart) in year 2, and then I think it stretches out to one more course in year 3. Monitoring is ongoing, no matter what.

The good news is that he is in remission, so the BCG has worked. Bad news is that he won't get anymore BCG unless the cancer comes back. He has been offered the option to do some intravesical chemotherapy in lieu of the BCG, but since he's responded so well to the BCG and is cancer-free, his doctor is fine with just stopping here with treatments and continuing to monitor him. That's what he figures he'll do. He would be eligible for BCG were the cancer to recur.

And on the "maybe bladder cancer wasn't the worst thing to happen" front....continued research seems to indicate that the BCG may prime the innate immune system to make it better at fighting off all kinds of bacteria and viruses, including COVID-19. So having bladder cancer meant he was treated with BCG, which might make him more resistant to the virus...weird....


https://www.medicalnewstoday.c...ect-against-covid-19


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