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I believe you are mistaken about how the door closes.

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Then there’s this statement from another team that used the stall last fall.

https://mobile.twitter.com/woo...462859460608/photo/1


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I see. But it's still clearly a noose.
 
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Yes it is. And I remember in school some kids thought it was cool to learn to tie them - So somebody thought it would be cute to tie a noose in this stall in 2019, not knowing what a big fat disaster of a mess it would turn into in 2020. Surely the person who tied this Back then is aware of what is going on now - wonder why they haven’t come forward. Fear now, maybe. I just don’t even know what to think anymore. Frowner


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Yeah. I'm not buying the innocent pull-down rope story.

It's a noose. It even has the traditional seven turns in the coil (seven was once considered an unlucky or unholy number; 13 loops was also common).

It's not "a rope fashioned like a noose". It's a noose. It is clearly, unmistakably, a noose.

Like Jodi said, it used to be cool to tie them. In the 1970s, I had one on the wall in my garage, too. A noose then (not in the American South) was a sort of a morbid symbology thing like Harley riders have skulls all over everything.

I believe a noose as a symbol is much more loaded today, especially in the American South... or we've just become aware throughout the country how loaded it's been for centuries. Frankly, I'd put it in the same category as the confederate battle flag. ("Oh, that's just a piece of fabric we hung up as a makeshift window curtain... it is not a symbol and it's not directed at any specific person!") My take is still that it does *not* need to be directed at a specific person to be a symbol of hate, intolerance, or a threat.

If you are driving in the American Deep South and on your way into a small town you see a noose hanging from a tree branch, what does that mean to you?


(I had to look at a map... Talladega is 50 miles east of Birmingham, Alabama.)


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Yes, a noose here, living in the west, doesn’t have the same meaning To me, (or at least it didn’t) as it would to someone in the south. Though it’s entirely possible I haven’t been paying enough attention up until now.


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I am still of the opinion that the Wallace incident was a fluke.

But I can also understand why people would come to the opposite conclusion. It's abundantly clear that we continue to have huge problems when it comes to issues of race.

To wit:

https://www.journalnow.com/new...17-fad413c01300.html


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