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piqué, how did you survive that episode in Quebec? Did you eventually find the cabin or other shelter or did you have to make refuge on the trail?

As far as Yellowstone is concerned, I saw the following article today...

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Supervolcano may be brewing beneath Mount St Helens
10 June 2009 by David Shiga

Is a supervolcano brewing beneath Mount St Helens? Peering under the volcano has revealed what may be an extraordinarily large zone of semi-molten rock, which would be capable of feeding a giant eruption.

Magma can be detected with a technique called magnetotellurics, which builds up a picture of what lies underground by measuring fluctuations in electric and magnetic fields at the surface. The fields fluctuate in response to electric currents travelling below the surface, induced by lightning storms and other phenomena. The currents are stronger when magma is present, since it is a better conductor than solid rock.

Graham Hill of GNS Science, an earth and nuclear science institute in Wellington, New Zealand, led a team that set up magnetotelluric sensors around Mount St Helens in Washington state, which erupted with force in 1980. The measurements revealed a column of conductive material that extends downward from the volcano. About 15 kilometres below the surface, the relatively narrow column appears to connect to a much bigger zone of conductive material.

The column below Mount St Helens appears to connect to a huge zone of conductive material
This larger zone was first identified in the 1980s by another magnetotelluric survey, and was found to extend all the way to beneath Mount Rainier 70 kilometres to the north-east, and Mount Adams 50 kilometres to the east. It was thought to be a zone of wet sediment, water being a good electrical conductor.

However, since the new measurements show an apparent conduit connecting this conductive zone to Mount St Helens - which was undergoing a minor eruption of semi-molten material at the time the measurements were made - Hill and his colleagues now think the conductive material is more likely to be a semi-molten mixture. Its conductivity is not high enough for it to be pure magma, Hill says, so it is more likely to be a mixture of solid and molten rock.

Gary Egbert of Oregon State University in Corvallis, who is a magnetotellurics specialist but not a member of Hill's team, is cautious about the idea of a nascent supervolcano where Mount St Helens sits. "It seems likely that there's some partial melt down there," given that it is a volcanic area, he says. "But part of the conductivity is probably just water."

If the structure beneath the three volcanoes is indeed a vast bubble of partially molten rock, it would be comparable in size to the biggest magma chambers ever discovered, such as the one below Yellowstone National Park.

Every few hundred thousand years, such chambers can erupt as so-called supervolcanoes - the Yellowstone one did so about 640,000 years ago. These enormous eruptions can spew enough sunlight-blocking ash into the atmosphere to cool the climate by several degrees Celsius.

Could Mount St Helens erupt like this? "A really big, big eruption is possible if it is one of those big systems like Yellowstone," Hill says. "I don't think it will be tomorrow, but I couldn't try to predict when it would happen."

Further measurements probing the structure of the crust beneath the other volcanoes in the area could help determine if the zone connects to them all, Hill says. He presented his team's results on 27 May at the Joint Assembly geophysics meeting in Toronto, Canada.


Source: Link to New Scientist

640,000 years ago is not so terribly long ago as things go. Sunset Crater in Arizona is only about 1000 years old. Krakatoa was in the 19th century. Some disaster is happening to someone somewhere every day.

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yes, eventually i found the cabin. someone was in there, fortunately, or i never would have found it. it was a lamp glowing in the window shining through the trees that made it visible.

thanks for the correction on the number of years since yellowstone's last blowout.

it's no more strange to live in the path of a volcano that could blow any time than to live in california on the san andreas fault.
 
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What's your next planned vacation?
 
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well, we aren't really planners. some trips that could be on the horizon in the near future:

next week driving the dog up to see the chiropractor and will visit with some friends i haven't seen in a long time up that way. it's a 6 hour trip (he's worth it).

we'll probably head to the snowy mountains to do an early season backpacking trip sometime soon.

i'm going to go to the national folk festival in butte in 2-3 weeks. hoping my best friend in nyc will come join me, or my brother from chicago, or both.

we hope to visit an old friend in california before the summer is out and go backpacking in the sierras.

in early august i'll be a volunteer on a week-long rafting and backpacking adventure with high school girls in a ywca program.

will be heading back to my forest service cabin for a couple of weeks during bow hunting season to keep an eye on the hunters.

in october we'll be heading back east to see stepson for family weekend at his new college, then i hope from there to spend at least a couple of weeks in nyc.

we both would really really love to spend the month of november in bonaire, for endless snorkeling, and for me to knuckle down to work as well. but could just be a pipe dream. we'll see.

also mr. pique's mom is getting more frail and the sibs in NC could use some relief, so we'll definitely fit in a visit to his family before the end of the year.

all of the above is very iffy, changeable, and may or may not happen (except for the ywca trip).

kathy, do you always plan your vacations in advance? Smiler
 
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pique', I have an HP computer. Can you tell me how I can put the slash over the e instead of after it? Thanks.
 
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kathy, do you always plan your vacations in advance? Smiler

Well, let's see. We always have a week at our (JF's family) summer camp pretty much the same time every year as it coincides with the club annual meeting which JF is obligated to attend. So, that's planning that is pretty much done for us. As to big vacations like Cat Island. the Bahamas, N. Captiva Island and my trip with Puffin to Italy, yes, they have all been planned quite a bit in advance, primarily for budgetary reasons. In fact, until about four years ago, we were not able to afford vacations like this (or so we told ourselves). I love doing things spontaneously, but planning for a big vacation can be an awful lot of fun, in and of itself.
 
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pique', I have an HP computer. Can you tell me how I can put the slash over the e instead of after it? Thanks.


Daniel, hold down the "ALT" key and then enter 0233. You should get é when you release the "ALT" key.

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planning for a big vacation can be an awful lot of fun, in and of itself.


i guess. it usually falls to me to figure out the details, as mr. pique is detail-challenged. i get tired of that.

we could solve that problem by going to places we've been before, and we do, but it's nice to explore new places.

i enjoy it most once i get there.
 
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Daniel:
Daniel, hold down the "ALT" key and then enter 0233. You should get é when you release the "ALT" key.


So much for computers making our lives easier... Big Grin
 
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Daniel:
Daniel, hold down the "ALT" key and then enter 0233. You should get é when you release the "ALT" key.


So much for computers making our lives easier... Big Grin


You ALWAYS crack me up RP!


Now...I have gotta get off here and get some more work done. She says looking at the wet but no longer rainy outside. I feel like I am molding. !!!
 
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ALT 0233 doesn't work for me

(that's why i call her peek)
 
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é éé

it does too work, apple.

you hold down the alt while typing the numbers one at a time.

maybe you are trying to hold down all the keys at once?
 
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º™££)@##

That's not cursing, it's what Option 0233 and Control 0233 do on a Mac.

Anyone know what works for a Mac?

I am dying to type something in the South of France thread. Smiler
 
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when do you type the 'e'?

I've tried 20 times.. maybe you have to program your keyboard or something.
 
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You don't type the e key...the Alt 0233 is supposed to give you the whole character with accent.
 
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